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		<title>Hudson and TFS2008 For Continuous Integration</title>
		<link>http://blog.prokrams.com/2010/07/24/hudson-and-tfs2008-for-continuous-integration/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 19:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[continuous integration]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[At work we&#8217;re taking some time to get a proper CI environment up and running. Since we also have a Java product, Hudson was already set up and being used. I had used Hudson in the past for doing continuous integration of IronRuby under Mono on Linux. Getting our build up and running was pretty [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At <a href="http://www.preemptive.com/">work</a> we&#8217;re taking some time to get a proper <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuous_Integration">CI</a> environment up and running. Since we also have <a href="http://www.preemptive.com/products/dasho/overview">a Java product</a>, <a href="http://hudson-ci.org/">Hudson</a> was already set up and being used. I had used Hudson in the past for doing continuous integration of <a href="http://www.ironruby.net/">IronRuby</a> under <a href="http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page">Mono</a> on <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/">Linux</a>. Getting our build up and running was pretty much a breeze thanks to the <a href="http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/Team+Foundation+Server+Plugin">TFS</a>, <a href="http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/Gallio+Plugin">Gallio</a>, <a href="http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/MSBuild+Plugin">MSBuild</a>, and <a href="http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/NCover+Plugin">NCover</a> plugins. Once that was set up and running, it was easy enough to<a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc507647.aspx"> subscribe to the CheckinEvent on TFS</a> and have it<a href="http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/Remote+access+API"> ping a defined URL</a> on Hudson to kick off the build. Yay! Proper Continuous Integration!</p>
<p>But then something unexpected started to happen. At two hour intervals, the build would kick off, even if not check in had occurred! Some digging into the Windows Event Log, lead to what seemed to be the culprit. Every two hours TFS syncs users and groups with Active Directory. For some reason this raises a CheckinEvent. So the cause was discovered, now how to stop it? A quick searching on [SearchEngine] revealed<a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/b/adamsinger/archive/2007/07/31/great-news.aspx"> this tidbit</a>: </p>
<blockquote><p>you can now take advantage of the ability to modify the periodic AD/GSS sync period. To do so, you need to manually modify a Web.config file on the Application Tier that by deafult will appear under the folder &quot;%PROGRAMFILES%\Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 Team Foundation Server\Web Services\services&quot;. DISCLAIMER: I do not guarrantee that this will not cause your computer to eat all of the data it has ever come into contact with, possible with fire. This confers no warranties and no rights, your mileage may vary, use at your own risk, void where prohibited, etc. [Note: still my blog]. You&#8217;ll need to add the following two lines to the key/value pair section at the top of this file, followed by resetting IIS to make sure our application pool picks up the changes:</p>
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<blockquote><p><code>&lt;add key=&quot;IdentityUpdatePeriod&quot; value=&quot;01:00:00&quot; /&gt;<br />&lt;add key=&quot;IdentityUpdateInitial&quot; value=&quot;01:00:00&quot; /&gt;</code></p>
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<blockquote><p> Note that I&#8217;ve set both the initial update (i.e. the delay after startup that the first periodic sync happens) and the delay between periodic syncs to 1 hour. You can increase this to multiple hours, or decrease it to a matter of minutes. </p>
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<p>So after making those changes, I noticed that the Events were no longer being logged every two hours, but the CheckinEvent was still getting raised at that interval! What could be going on? Well after some (read: A LOT) of [SearchEngine]ing, <a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/b/granth/archive/2008/09/15/does-tfs-guarantee-event-subscription-delivery.aspx">it turns out</a>, TFS will automatically try resending &quot;failed&quot; alerts every two hours for ~12 hours. Since the CheckinEvent subscription is expecting a SOAP webservice, and not just a random url, it thinks that the notification &quot;failed&quot; when it doesn&#8217;t get the response it expects. Causing it to try resending to the same url over, and over, and over again at two hour intervals. </p>
<p>So what we need is a very very simple web service to take the SOAP message then turn around and ping a url. This way TFS gets the response it expects and acknowledges that the notification was successfully sent.</p>
<p>All you have to do is implement the &#8216;Notify&#8217; method that TFS expects to be able to call:</p>
<pre>
        [SoapDocumentMethod(&quot;http://schemas.microsoft.com/TeamFoundation/2005/06/Services/Notification/03/Notify&quot;,
        RequestNamespace = &quot;http://schemas.microsoft.com/TeamFoundation/2005/06/Services/Notification/03&quot;)]
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        public void Notify(string eventXml)
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                try
                {
                    System.Net.WebRequest req = System.Net.HttpWebRequest.Create(&quot;http://www.example.org/hudson/job/AutomatedBuild/build?token=TOKEN&quot;);
                    req.GetResponse();
                }
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                {
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<p> I have put together a simple service that will do this for multiple URLs defined in the Web.config. Feel free to get it <a href="http://github.com/mletterle/TFSUrlPinger">here</a> at <a href="https://github.com/">GitHub</a> and save yourself the frustration I encountered. </p>
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		<title>25 Random Facts About The Prokrammer</title>
		<link>http://blog.prokrams.com/2009/02/05/25-random-facts-about-the-prokrammer/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 03:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This meme has been floating around Facebook lately, I’m not going to tag anyone here since I did it there, but thought I’d share this list with those of you who might not be on Facebook: &#160; (progn (setq num 1)(princ &#34;\n\n25 Random Things About Me\n\n&#34;)(while (&#60; num 26) (princ (format &#34;%d. \n&#34; num))(setq num [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This meme has been floating around Facebook lately, I’m not going to tag anyone here since I did it there, but thought I’d share this list with those of you who might not be on Facebook:</p>
<p>&#160;</p>
<p>(progn (setq num 1)(princ &quot;\n\n25 Random Things About Me\n\n&quot;)(while (&lt; num 26) (princ (format &quot;%d. \n&quot; num))(setq num (1+ num)))) </p>
<p>25 Random Things About Me </p>
<p>1. I have been programming since I was 8.    <br />2. I&#8217;m writing this list in emacs.    <br />3. I was on the Varsity Team for the 1997 Ohio State Academic Decathlon Team.    <br />4. I&#8217;ve only been west of the Mississippi once, for the National Academic Decathlon Championships in St. George, Utah.    <br />5. I spent the ages of 5 to 9 in Marietta, GA.    <br />6. I&#8217;m fantastically good at making my daughter vomit.    <br />7. I spent a year at DeVry in Columbus working on a BA in Electronic Engineering, before moving back home.&#160; I flunked every class.     <br />8. I worked in Technical support for 8 years, all the way up to Middle Management until I had the chance to take an &quot;Employee Requested Demotion&quot; to get started programming.    <br />9. I was introduced to my wife in high school, but we really didn&#8217;t meet until we ran across each other on AOL.&#160; We had lived less then a mile apart for almost a decade.    <br />10. I was a BBS junkie growing up during my teens.&#160; I even sysop&#8217;d my own for a while.    <br />11. My buddy (Jim Balcomb) and I use to sneak out of my house in the middle of the night to go dumpster diving.&#160; &quot;I&#8217;m pretending to be a garbage bag, shut up!&quot;    <br />12. I was one of those linux zealots who hated Microsoft and vowed never to work in an MS shop&#8230; until I started getting paid to support a small number of Terminal Servers (the rest were running an OS called Real/32).&#160; Now I&#8217;m a Microsoft MVP.    <br />13. I&#8217;m currently keeping track of everything I eat and drink, in order to force myself to be healthier in my choices.&#160; You can see what I&#8217;m eating and drinking here: <a href="http://twitpic.com/photos/mletterle_diet">http://twitpic.com/photos/mletterle_diet</a>    <br />14. My wife and I tried to have a baby for four years before we finally had our daughter via IVF.    <br />15. Three days after our daughter was born, we had to rush her to the hospital at 4am. I rode in the ambulance that took her from the ER to the Children&#8217;s hospital.&#160; Three weeks later she came out healthy and we haven&#8217;t looked back since.     <br />16. I was absolutely terrified of getting my blood taken and hated shots, before we had to go through IVF.&#160; I still don&#8217;t like them, but I no longer am in mortal terror for a blood draw or shot.    <br />17. I smoked cigarettes regularly from about age 14 until 20, including pipes in college.&#160; I still enjoy a good cigar now and then.    <br />18. I own two guitars, an acoustic and an electric.&#160; I play both poorly, but am determined to be good (at least passable) on them someday.    <br />19. I once read Dante&#8217;s Inferno over summer vacation while a teen.&#160; Just because I wanted to.    <br />20. I am very dexterous with my feet.&#160; I can pick up and throw things with them.&#160; My mother always said we had Hobbit feet, owning to the patch of hair on top.    <br />21. I took the cookie from the cookie jar.&#160; See number 13.    <br />22. I am an Eagle Scout.&#160; But only because my parents hounded me about it for a good two years.    <br />23. I can crack the bones in my right toes on demand.    <br />24. I once [REDACTED] in [REDACTED] to [REDACTED] until [REDACTED].    <br />25. Yes, I wrote the lisp program above so I wouldn&#8217;t have to type all these numbers.    <br />nil </p>
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		<title>The 30 Day Intake Experiment</title>
		<link>http://blog.prokrams.com/2009/01/31/the-30-day-intake-experiment/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My entire life I’ve been what is commonly known as “fat”, or, as the clothing industry calls it, “Big and Tall”.&#160; I have been blessed with both an impressive girth and height.&#160; For as long as I can remember these have been my defining physical qualities.&#160; I generally cast an imposing figure over my contemporaries, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My entire life I’ve been what is commonly known as “fat”, or, as the clothing industry calls it, “Big and Tall”.&#160; I have been blessed with both an impressive girth and height.&#160; For as long as I can remember these have been my defining physical qualities.&#160; I generally cast an imposing figure over my contemporaries, that didn’t stop the teasing during my childhood of course, but those times passed generally without much incident. And for years these attributes caused me no real harm, medically I was “healthy” besides my obesity.&#160; My cholesterol was low, my blood pressure normal, no problems with sugar levels.</p>
<p>Now, as I stare down thirty, this is no longer quite true.&#160; For the most part I’m still healthy (again, except for the pounds of extra flesh), but cracks in my infrastructure have begun to creep up.&#160; The blood pressure is starting to tick up slightly, the cholesterol and sugar are still good, for now.&#160; But more worrisome is my knees.&#160; Starting about a year and a half ago they began “grinding” and generally starting to, well, not be their old weight-supporting selves any more.&#160; Even more troubling is I have a family history of knee problems.&#160; My father (who is NOT obese) is having both his knees replaced this year.&#160; </p>
<p>So, what does this have to do with the title of this blog post?&#160; What is the “30 Day Intake Experiment”?&#160; The 30 day experiment I am about to take is my first step towards, hopefully, leading a more healthy life style. This is my attempt to be honest with myself about my eating habits.&#160; For the next thirty days, I will be recording EVERY piece of food and drink that I consume.&#160; I have created a <a href="http://twitter.com/mletterle_diet">twitter account</a> and will be posting pictures of every meal I have every day.&#160; In this manner I will not be able to “cheat” or lie to myself about what my diet <em>is</em>.&#160; </p>
<p>I fully intend to follow this up with increased physical activity as well, it’s a little difficult during the height of a Cleveland winter, but I will find some way.&#160; This is simply the first step.&#160; Believe it or not, I once had a membership at a gym, and those two years were probably when I’ve felt the most energetic and healthy.&#160; It’s definitely something I want to get back to.&#160; Ironically, I originally joined the gym in anticipation of our daughter, and haven’t been able to go back since we’ve had her.&#160; Children take up a ton of time :) </p>
<p>In another twist, completely unknown to me, this month is the “<a href="http://calebjenkins.wordpress.com/2009/01/29/official-rules/">Fit in February Developer Challenge</a>”.&#160; Strangely apropos don’t you think?</p>
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		<title>Agile Summer Camp Recap</title>
		<link>http://blog.prokrams.com/2008/09/08/agile-summer-camp-recap/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 01:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had the pleasure of spending this past weekend with a group of about two dozen of the most talented and passionate developers in this region, and some from outside.&#160; This was no ordinary conference though, this was camping!&#160; We had no electricity, no flushing toilets, and a hand pump for running water.&#160; The great [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the pleasure of spending this past weekend with a group of about two dozen of the most talented and<a href="http://blog.prokrams.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/agilesummercamp.png"><img title="AgileSummerCamp" style="border-right: 0px; border-top: 0px; border-left: 0px; border-bottom: 0px" height="129" alt="AgileSummerCamp" src="http://blog.prokrams.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/agilesummercamp-thumb.png" width="130" align="right" border="0" /></a> passionate developers in this region, and some from outside.&#160; This was no ordinary conference though, this was camping!&#160; We had no electricity, no flushing toilets, and a hand pump for running water.&#160; The great thing about the lack of power&#160; though is that distraction was at an absolute minimum, all we could really do was talk and listen.&#160; I kept a camp journal, below is the transcription (with some embellishment):</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p><font size="2">9/5/08</font></p>
<p><font size="2">We have arrived at Agile Summer Camp.&#160; After claiming a bottom bunk in the rear of the cabin, I am sitting in my camp chair enjoying a beer while <a href="http://blog.sonerdy.com/" target="_blank">Brandon Joyce</a>, funky town dancer extraordinaire, cranks the camp radio so we can listen to <a href="http://www.isaachayes.com/" target="_blank">Chef</a> (RIP) croon on a 70s station.&#160; <a href="http://www.codinggeekette.com/" target="_blank">Sadukie</a> is dead-tree blogging and <a href="http://blog.cloudsocket.com/" target="_blank">Woody</a> and <a href="http://matthew.werstler.name/page.asp?page=bio" target="_blank">Matt Werstler</a> have gone for firewood.&#160; We are anxiously awaiting the arrival of <a href="http://michaeleatonconsulting.com/blog/" target="_blank">Mike Eaton</a> who has recently called and is nearby.&#160; </font></p>
<p><font size="2">Suddenly, a car arrives.&#160; Could this be Mr. Eaton?&#160; Or a guy with a chainsaw (I hope he has <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aO3TO5L0bM" target="_blank">bud light</a>!).&#160; It turns out to be <a href="http://www.joshholmes.com/" target="_blank">Josh Holmes</a> (who looks like he could have a chainsaw…).&#160; He is followed shortly by Eaton, and then others.</font></p>
<p><font size="2">There was a guest log in the back of the cabin packet that contained a riddle, as people arrived we asked for them to take it on, but no one could come up with an answer, see if you can:</font></p>
<blockquote><p><font color="#c0c0c0" size="2">We buried the loot where the fish used to swim</font></p>
<p><font color="#c0c0c0" size="2">40 paces westerly of monitor, third stopper (not for bathtub) from the left.&#160; one foot down right side.</font></p>
<p><font color="#c0c0c0" size="2">1st Clue:&#160; Are you good enough?</font></p>
<p><font color="#c0c0c0" size="2">-John from Beaverton May 26, 2008</font></p>
</blockquote>
<p><font size="2">The evening ends with awesome discussions on community and a few already on the topic of agile.&#160; Also me and Mike Eaton finish a fifth and a pint of <a href="http://www.jackdaniels.com/Default.aspx" target="_blank">Jack</a> ourselves (okay <a href="http://www.platinumbay.com/blogs/" target="_blank">Steve Andrews</a> helped a <em>little)</em>.</font></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p><font size="2">9/6/08</font></p>
<p><font size="2">CLANK! CLING! CLANG!&#160; I am roused from my fitful sleep by the sharp cry of metal to metal.&#160; I change in my sleeping bag and make my way out of the cabin to find turkey sausage and eggs being cooked on the, now assembled, camp stove….</font></p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/sadukie/2838455464/sizes/m/" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/2838455464_e73bf697dd.jpg" /></a> </p>
<p>The rest of the journal devolves into generic notes, most of which can be found <a href="http://www.agilesummercamp.com/wiki/proposedTopics.ashx" target="_blank">here</a> (along with a lot more detail on the actual sessions). </p>
<p>Needless to say it was very educational and loads of fun.</p>
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		<title>Interviewed on Alt.NET Podcast</title>
		<link>http://blog.prokrams.com/2008/08/29/interviewed-on-altnet-podcast/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had the pleasure of being interviewed along side Aaron Junod on the Alt.NET Podcast to discuss IronRuby.  Michael  Moore was a wonderful host and did an amazing job editing the conversation down to something tight.  It was an exciting opportunity to talk about IronRuby specifically and Ruby in general.  Hopefully it will help spark [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the pleasure of being <a href="http://altnetpodcast.com/episodes/9-state-of-ironruby" target="_blank">interviewed</a> along side <a href="http://rubydoes.net/" target="_blank">Aaron Junod</a> on the <a href="http://altnetpodcast.com/" target="_blank">Alt.NET Podcast</a> to discuss <a href="http://www.ironruby.net" target="_blank">IronRuby</a>.  <img src="http://blog.prokrams.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/altdotnetmike.png" title="altdotnetmike" style="border-width: 0px" alt="altdotnetmike" align="right" border="0" height="170" width="113" /></p>
<p><a href="http://blowmage.com/" target="_blank">Michael  Moore</a> was a wonderful host and did an amazing job editing the conversation down to something tight.  It was an exciting opportunity to talk about IronRuby specifically and Ruby in general.  Hopefully it will help spark even more interest in it.</p>
<p>On a personal note, I’m interested in any feedback you might have, from the technical to the stylistic. It was my first time doing a podcast, so it’s definitely a learning experience for me.</p>
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		<title>devLink 2008: Open Spaces and Waffle Houses</title>
		<link>http://blog.prokrams.com/2008/08/27/devlink-2008-open-spaces-and-waffle-houses/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had the pleasure of attending devLink this past weekend in Murfreesboro, Tennessee.  Honestly, I almost blew this conference off.  The sessions really didn’t appeal to me, and it was a bit of a hike to get to.  But then Amanda Laucher announced the DevLink Bus. And I started to waver…  Then I heard that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the pleasure of attending <a href="http://www.devlink.net/" target="_blank">devLink</a> this past weekend in <a href="http://www.mtsu.edu/" target="_blank">Murfreesboro, Tennessee.</a>  Honestly, I almost blew this conference off.  The sessions really didn’t appeal to me, and it was a bit of a hike to get to.  But then <a href="http://www.pandamonial.com/" target="_blank">Amanda Laucher</a> <a href="http://www.pandamonial.com/2008/06/devlink-bus-route.html" target="_blank">announced</a> the <a href="http://www.devlink.net/TravelInfo/RidethedevLinkBus/tabid/116/Default.aspx" target="_blank">DevLink Bus</a>. And I started to waver…  Then I heard that <a href="http://netcave.org/" target="_blank">Alan Stevens</a> would be organizing <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.org/" target="_blank">Open Spaces</a> during the conference. I was sold.</p>
<p>Wednesday evening around 7:30, my wife dropped me off at <a href="http://www.codinggeekette.com/" target="_blank">Sadukie’s</a> house. <a href="http://blog.sonerdy.com/" target="_blank">Brandon Joyce</a> was already there, watching <a href="http://www.familyguy.com/" target="_blank">Family Guy</a>.  After Sadukie finished gathering up her wares, we piled into her Durango and headed off to pick up <a href="http://www.coreyhaines.com/coreysramblings/" target="_blank">Corey Haines</a>. A quick trip across town and we were <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&amp;saddr=Cleveland,+OH&amp;daddr=Toledo,+OH&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;mra=ls&amp;sll=41.540243,-81.444292&amp;sspn=0.007757,0.019312&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;t=h&amp;z=9" target="_blank">on our way</a> to Toledo to catch the bus.</p>
<p>Well, more accurately we were on our way to Toledo to <em>wait</em> for the bus.  The bus apparently went to the wrong side of town and it had to turn around to pick us up.  This wasn’t entirely bad.  It gave us enough time to pick up beer and for Corey to have an impromptu parking lot concert. And what’s better then beer and music?</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3071/2793807246_80ea256399_m.jpg" /></p>
<p>Eventually the bus arrived and we REALLY began our journey.  A journey of <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090305/" target="_blank">corny movies</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insomnia" target="_blank">lack of sleep</a>.  After much tossing and turning and cursing of lack of leg room, we arrived in Tennessee about 9am.  At which point I collapsed in my <a href="http://doubletree1.hilton.com/en_US/dt/hotel/MBTDTDT/index.do" target="_blank">hotel</a> room and passed out. Waking up in the evening, I followed my instinct to the local hotel bar/restaurant. Later on, I ended up making my way to Alan’s room where a party was going down.  Guitars, Cigars, and Beers were being passed around with abandon until hotel security came to the door and asked us nicely to stop.</p>
<p>The rest of the time in Tennessee is really a blur.  I wish I could give a detailed synopsis of each day, replete with details and names.  But honestly, the days meld into one another, linked only by great conversations, new experiences, and wonderful people.  I can’t stress enough the amount of knowledge I gained, and the success of the Open Space format that was put into place.</p>
<p>Alas, it was over much too soon.  By Saturday night it was time to board the bus once again, and make the long, <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118715/" target="_blank">movie</a> filled trip back to Ohio… Who knows, maybe this time I could get some sleep? I cuddled up to the window and slowly drifted…</p>
<p>“THUMP, THUMP, THUMP, THUMP!”  Okay, so sleep wasn’t going to happen.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/29942169@N08/2797454393/sizes/s/in/set-72157606951193028/" target="_blank"></p>
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<p>A blown tire. Great, <a href="http://infozerk.com/averyblog/" target="_blank">James Avery’s</a> ribbing about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Burton" target="_blank">“Everyone was screaming… except Cliff”</a> went through my head.  It didn’t help that we passed <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrollton_bus_disaster" target="_blank">a sign commemorating a 1988 bus tragedy</a> (<a href="http://twitter.com/AlanBarber/statuses/897100189" target="_blank">no joke</a>). The bus slowly inched along, until we pulled into a gas station in <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&amp;q=english+kentucky&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=38.641009,-85.128593&amp;spn=0.129521,0.30899&amp;t=h&amp;z=12" target="_blank">English, Kentucky</a>.  Our faces aglow in the soft light of nearby Waffle House.  We waited.  And Waited.  <a href="http://www.cootersplace.com" target="_blank">Cooter</a> showed up, and proceeded to sheer three bolts off the wheel.  So we continued to wait.  But while we waited, a remarkable thing happened.  Incredible conversations took place.  On <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/29942169@N08/2797907590/in/set-72157606951193028/" target="_blank">Comments</a>, on <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_responsibility_principle" target="_blank">SRP</a>, and any number of things.  The Open Spaces continued into the most open space possible, the world beyond the conference. Then the acetylene torch came out.</p>
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<p>So we waited a bit more.  Marriages came and went we waited so long. Eventually a new tire was on and we were off.  By 1pm I was home holding my daughter and reflecting on a fantastic conference.  I was thankful I ended up going, though some images will be seared into my brain, forever.</p>
<p align="center"><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/29942169@N08/2797451193/sizes/s/in/set-72157606951193028/" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3014/2797451193_e8576bf235_m.jpg" /></a></p>
<p>I’ll at least be able to say I shared a tour bus with a member of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratt" target="_blank">Ratt</a>.</p>
<p align="center"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/2797212777_60a629222e_m.jpg" /></p>
<p>The best part is that the conversation continues at the <a href="http://heartlandopenspaces.com" target="_blank">Heartland Open Spaces Wiki</a>. Be sure to stop by and join in!</p>
<p>Next, I’ll be at <a href="http://www.agilesummercamp.com/" target="_blank">Agile Summer Camp</a>, and then I’m home until <a href="http://www.codemash.org/" target="_blank">CodeMash</a> in January 2009.  To all my new friends, old friends, and friends to be, I hope to see you there!</p>
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		<title>IronRuby vs JRuby vs MRI. Performance Mini-Shootout.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 01:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the things I went over in my eRubyCon talk was the relative performance of IronRuby compared to both JRuby&#160; (which I consider to be a cousin of sorts to IronRuby) and MRI. I did this by running the same tests that Antonio Cangiano ran in December. There were a few test results that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things I went over in my <a href="http://blog.prokrams.com/2008/08/25/erubycon-recap/" target="_blank">eRubyCon talk</a> was the relative performance of <a href="http://www.ironruby.net/" target="_blank">IronRuby</a> compared to both <a href="http://jruby.codehaus.org/" target="_blank">JRuby</a>&#160; <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/46576087@N00/2141649813/sizes/s/" target="_blank"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2254/2141649813_03e886d464_m.jpg" align="right" /></a>(which I consider to be a cousin of sorts to IronRuby) and <a href="http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/" target="_blank">MRI</a>. I did this by running the <a href="http://antoniocangiano.com/2007/12/03/the-great-ruby-shootout/" target="_blank">same tests</a> that <a href="http://antoniocangiano.com/" target="_blank">Antonio Cangiano</a> ran in December. </p>
<p>There were a few test results that really stood out.&#160; The lists test was by far the worst for IR, where it was 56 times as slow as MRI and 3 times as slow as JRuby.&#160; But this wasn’t the only sore spot, there were other places that show room for improvement.&#160; Namely, vm1_blocks in which IronRuby was almost 9 times as slow as MRI.&#160; Also so_exception where IronRuby brought up the tail by being 10 times as slow as MRI. </p>
<p>The nitty gritty is that IronRuby is about twice as slow as MRI with JRuby being slightly faster, overall.&#160; As the below graph illustrates:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.prokrams.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/image.png"><img title="image" style="border-top-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; border-bottom-width: 0px; border-right-width: 0px" height="290" alt="image" src="http://blog.prokrams.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/image-thumb.png" width="575" border="0" /></a>&#160;</p>
<p>There are a few high points in this test though.&#160; Number one, is that IronRuby ran the majority of the tests.&#160; There were only four failures out of forty, for a 90% success rate.&#160; For comparison JRuby had 95% success rate. Number two, there were actually a few tests in which IronRuby beat JRuby and MRI.&#160; No small feat for such a young implementation.</p>
<p>I think this mini-shootout illustrates that there is a lot of room for improvement for IronRuby.&#160; However, a little perspective goes a long way.&#160; JRuby was <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.ruby/msg/7d05f2ad7d84e6f3?hl=en" target="_blank">announced in 2001</a>, IronRuby was <a href="http://www.iunknown.com/2007/04/introducing_iro.html" target="_blank">announced last April</a>.&#160; The JRuby team has had 7 years to get to where they are today, whereas IronRuby has only had almost a year and a half! As the DLR improves IronRuby will receive those performance gains for free, and as compatibility becomes more stable the core team can focus on performance as well. The raw data can be downloaded <a href="http://prokrams.com/files/ShootOut.csv" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>eRubyCon Recap</title>
		<link>http://blog.prokrams.com/2008/08/25/erubycon-recap/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 01:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; What a fantastic conference this was two weeks ago.&#160; A great lineup of speakers, and fantastic after event gatherings.&#160; And I missed the first day!&#160; Josh Holmes has a great series of posts detailing the event, so I won’t repeat the play by play here.&#160; But I can say that I will definitely be [...]]]></description>
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<p>What a fantastic conference this was two weeks ago.&#160; A great lineup of speakers, and fantastic after event gatherings.&#160; And I missed the first day!&#160; <a href="http://www.joshholmes.com" target="_blank">Josh Holmes</a> has a great <a href="http://www.joshholmes.com/CategoryView,category,eRubyCon.aspx" target="_blank">series of posts</a> detailing the event, so I won’t repeat the play by play here.&#160; But I can say that I will definitely be making the trip to Columbus for <a href="http://www.erubycon.com/" target="_blank">eRubyCon</a> 2009.&#160; </p>
<p>This was the first conference I have gone to where I actually presented.&#160; My talk was originally geared more towards .NET developers interested in Ruby, thinking that there would be more Java and .NET enterprise folks there then it turned out.&#160; After I arrived, as I listened to the attendees, I realized the audience was primarily people already doing Ruby.&#160; I also noticed a certain level of distrust around Microsoft in general, even though the event was hosted in their office!&#160; As I was going to be speaking on <a href="http://www.ironruby.net" target="_blank">IronRuby</a>, a Microsoft project, this concerned me a bit.&#160; So I ended up putting in an opening section about some of, what I believe to be, the positive changes at Microsoft over the last half-decade or so.&#160; I highlighted efforts like <a href="http://www.codeplex.com" target="_blank">CodePlex</a> and <a href="http://port25.technet.com" target="_blank">Port25</a>.&#160; A number of people seemed to copy down the Port25 address, so I hope I helped open some eyes in this case.&#160; I also went over the current state of IronRuby, and compared it’s performance to <a href="http://jruby.codehaus.org/" target="_blank">JRuby</a>.&#160; I then asked who did .NET work in their day to day jobs and must have had about 5 people raise their hands.&#160; Then I went through a short demo of opening up and changing a standard WinForms app using IronRuby. It seemed to go well, I’ve gotten positive feedback on it and a number of suggestions for improvement.</p>
<p>I can’t thank <a href="http://www.objo.com/" target="_blank">Joe O&#8217;Brien</a> enough for the opportunity or confidence in me he showed by allowing me to speak.&#160; The slides and demo used for my presentation are <a href="http://prokrams.com/decks/eRubyCon/2008/IronRubyRealWorld.zip" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Boy Howdy! The Elder and Woody Get It On!</title>
		<link>http://blog.prokrams.com/2008/06/12/boy-howdy-the-elder-and-woody-get-it-on/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There’s a new podcast in town y’all, and wooeee is it good. (A little Southern lingo for you there).&#160; Keith “The Elder”&#160; Elder and Chris “Woody” Woodruff, two extremely smart gentlemen who I have the honor of knowing, have recently begun podcasting about Development and Technology with a Southern Twang.&#160; The title and theme of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s a new <a href="http://deepfriedbytes.com/" target="_blank">podcast</a> in town y’all, and wooeee is it good. (A little Southern lingo for you there).&#160; <a href="http://keithelder.net/blog/" target="_blank">Keith “The Elder”&#160; Elder</a> and <a href="http://blog.cloudsocket.com/" target="_blank">Chris “Woody” Woodruff</a>, two extremely smart gentlemen who I have the honor of knowing, have recently begun podcasting about Development and Technology with a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_American_English" target="_blank">Southern Twang</a>.&#160; <a href="http://images.foodnetwork.com/webfood/images/tv/paulashomecooking/videos/paula_image.jpg" target="_blank"><img style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 15px" height="204" src="http://images.foodnetwork.com/webfood/images/tv/paulashomecooking/videos/paula_image.jpg" width="141" align="right" /></a>The title and theme of this endeavor?&#160; Why, <a href="http://deepfriedbytes.com/" target="_blank">Deep Fried Bytes</a> of course!</p>
<p>The first episodes are based at the <a href="https://www.mvpsummit2008.com/public/aboutthisevent.aspx" target="_blank">MVP summit</a> that took place in April.&#160; From a <a href="http://deepfriedbytes.com/podcast/episode-2-interview-war-stories/" target="_blank">discussion</a> on what interface a Chicken should implement to lay eggs (my vote is for IEggLayer) to <a href="http://deepfriedbytes.com/podcast/episode-3-twitter-war-stories/" target="_blank">extolling</a> the Power of <a href="http://www.twitter.com" target="_blank">Twitter</a>, each episode has been filled with warm humor and good information.&#160; The passion they, and their guests, have for technology really comes shining through.&#160; Leaving you with a contented, full feeling, similar to eating a good bucket of wings fresh from the deep fryer.</p>
<p>The production values are surprisingly high for such a new podcast.&#160; Even though the podcast is only 3 episodes old (really two, the <a href="http://deepfriedbytes.com/podcast/episode-1-introducing-deep-fried-bytes/" target="_blank">intro one</a> almost doesn’t count ;) ), you would think these guys have at LEAST 10 episodes under their belts, minimum.&#160; And there has been steady improvement. In the first episode or two, Woody sounded much quieter then Keith, by the third episode that’s been resolved.&#160; The new intro from Elly Mae is top notch, leading you in that this is a serious (but not too serious) affair. The last episode shows a marked improvement in over all production (though you can tell they are still playing with editing, in the beginning there are parts where it sounds &quot;clippy&quot;).&#160; If better is yet to come, you&#8217;ll find me there!&#160; And now that they have a <a href="http://www.red-gate.com/products/ants_profiler/ahead_of_the_game_ebook1.htm?utm_source=dfb&amp;utm_medium=box&amp;utm_content=aheadgame-ebook1&amp;utm_campaign=antsprofiler" target="_blank">sponsor</a>, the future is looking bright.</p>
<p>So come on down, take yer shoes off, and pop a squat with the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC-Yc_qvr30" target="_blank">Paula Deens</a> of Podcasting!</p>
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<h2>Links</h2>
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<li><a href="http://deepfriedbytes.com/" target="_blank">Deep Fried Bytes Homepage</a></li>
<li><a href="http://ax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/browserRedirect?url=itms%253A%252F%252Fax.phobos.apple.com.edgesuite.net%252FWebObjects%252FMZStore.woa%252Fwa%252FviewPodcast%253Fid%253D281776316" target="_blank">Deep Fried Bytes on iTunes</a></li>
<li><a href="http://social.zune.net/my/ContentRedirect.ashx?mtype=Podcast&amp;mid=9a86997e-3762-40bd-bcf5-0ecb9e2a32b8" target="_blank">Deep Fried Bytes on Zune Market Place</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.twitter.com/deepfriedbytes" target="_blank">Deep Fried Byte&#8217;s Twitter</a></li>
<li><a href="http://keithelder.net/blog/" target="_blank">Keith&#8217;s Blog</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blog.cloudsocket.com/" target="_blank">Woody&#8217;s Blog</a></li>
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		<title>Speaking at eRubyCon</title>
		<link>http://blog.prokrams.com/2008/06/11/speaking-at-erubycon/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a heads up to my faithful readership, I’ll be speaking about IronRuby at erubycon this August.&#160; It&#8217;ll be my first&#160; public speaking engagement at a technical conference, and my first real public speaking since High School (in-house presentations don&#8217;t count in my book).&#160; I&#8217;m quite nervous but it&#8217;s a topic I&#8217;m passionate about so [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a heads up to my faithful readership, I’ll be speaking about <a href="http://www.ironruby.com" target="_blank">IronRuby</a> at <a href="http://www.erubycon.com" target="_blank">erubycon</a> this August.&#160; It&#8217;ll be my first&#160; <a href="http://www.erubycon.com/index.html" target="_blank"><img height="90" src="http://www.erubycon.com/images/banner_small_speaker.png" width="120" align="right" /></a>public speaking engagement at a technical conference, and my first real public speaking since High School (in-house presentations don&#8217;t count in my book).&#160; I&#8217;m quite nervous but it&#8217;s a topic I&#8217;m passionate about so I&#8217;m really excited as well.&#160; The title of the talk is<em> &quot;Because Iron is Battleship Gray: IronRuby In The Real World&quot;</em>, and it won&#8217;t mention <a href="http://silverlight.net/default.aspx" target="_blank">Silverlight</a> or <a href="http://www.rubyonrails.com/" target="_blank">Rails</a>.&#160; Ruby is so much more than glitz and glam, and I think that tends to get lost in the hype.&#160; She&#8217;s a sexy lady, but she&#8217;s got brains too! </p>
<p>Hope to see you there!</p>
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